Damian Burford

Damian is the host of Mostly Harmless Podcast. Freelance writings have appeared in Vice, New Noise Magazine, Colorado Springs Independent, Denver Westword and more. Damian is currently bartending and working in music production in Napa, California. These are the adventures of his new life in Napa with his girlfriend Claire. Plus other adventures, writings, interviews and more!

Interview Hutch Harris // The Thermals. Creative Life, New Records and The End Of The Thermals! (Dec 2021)

THIS INTERVIEW WAS ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED AT MOSTLYHARMLESSPODCAST.COM. I’m moving away from Denver with the love of my life Claire and her Dick, the tabby cat. I am quitting a job that I thought was going to be my dream job. I am on a healthy medication and meditation routine. I am creating more than I have ever before. What does this have to do with Hutch Harris or The Thermals? You’ll see. I almost made a very stupid decision to stay here in Denver and run this little restaurant, while the love of my life moved away without me. Claire wanted to move away and explore her passions, but I wanted to stay here in Denver and explore where this path had taken me. I wanted to BUILD SOMETHING. I feel like I have been on a path to this place for so long. This path brought me to the front doors of the little restaurant that I help run. I thought this was the end of the path and the place I had always been working toward. I thought this was it. I thought I had made it. And it was there on that path that I found myself night after night cleaning out the grease traps on our industrial fried chicken fryers. Cleaning out those fryers, I would often sing to myself and that’s when when the lyrics to one of my favorite songs, “Here’s Your Future,” from The Thermals popped into my head. “god reached his hand down from the sky, he flooded the land, then he set it a fire, he said, “fear me again. know i’m your father. remember that no one can breathe underwater.” so bend your knees and bow your heads, save your babies, here’s your future, yeah here’s your future!” That night, Claire was out of town and I knew I’d be going home to a quiet and lonely apartment. I had nothing to really look forward, and soon this was going to be my future if I let Claire move away. Those lyrics staying in my head for weeks… “Here’s Your Future…” I’m not the smartest cookie, but elbow deep in old fryer grease, I realized I had already been building something with this woman I love. I was a dope! I had building a pretty GREAT life! I didn’t want her to go without me. I wanted to be with her, no matter where. I can find another job. I can run another restaurant, but I can never find another woman like her. So I sat and thought about what I really wanted to build. I thought about the things that really bring me joy. Cuddles with Claire and the kitty, writing about art, Interviewing people and just living a simple life. I just want a happy, creative, easy life and I wasn’t going to get that if I stayed here in Denver, cleaning out the fryers. Later than very night, I was sitting here enjoying one too many beers and a few too many tokes off the peace pipe and a Facebook ad scrolled across my screen from THE THERMALS page, announcing that Hutch Harris had just put out a new solo record, SUCK UP ALL THE OXYGEN. A manic idea took hold that I could maybe, just maybe, interview Hutch Harris! We could talk about quitting things and compare our creative processes, but really I just wanted to tell him how much that damned song meant to me in these moments of my life! How this song helped me decide that the path that lead me here to this place, was also leading me away from this place! So I fired off a rambling message to Hutch and to my surprise, he said YES! He would be on the show. That morning I was nervous for a whole lot of reasons. Right before we had our chat, I fired off an email to my bosses at the restaurant and let them know my last day would be January 15th and I would be moving to parts unknown with the love of my life. It felt like some kind of destiny taking over and taking me along for an adventure. The chat went well, I was a rambling mess. My diarrhea of mouth is worse than ever, but as I listened and edited this interview together… I could hear that under the rambling looney nonsense I was spouting off and calling questions, I could see that I do actually have a talent for this kind of stuff. I just need to calm down, relax and maybe drink a lot less coffee. It’s all part of the creative process. For those who may not know, do you mind catching us up on what happened to The Thermals? It’s been three or four years, I think. The last record we did was in 2016 and then we toured, but not as much as we usually did for the other records. We toured most of that year, I think. And then a year or so later, I was like, “I think that’s good enough for me.” I wanted to leave.. it. I wanted to stop doing it because I felt if I didn’t stop doing it, it was just going to be the same for the next 30 years, or until we stop doing it. And I thought about that, my life and my creative life. They were just going to be kind of a flat line for the rest of my life, If I didn’t stop doing the band and do something different. So I just told the band that. They weren’t thrilled but they understood, I felt like it had a good run and I just kind of needed to do something else at the end. How scary was it ending this project, that had been such a big part of your life? It was fine. I knew what it was going to be like. I just knew I … Read moreInterview Hutch Harris // The Thermals. Creative Life, New Records and The End Of The Thermals! (Dec 2021)

Happy Birthday to Claire!

Today is Claire Helme day! June 22nd! Happy 37th to my lover and Paramore! Claire, This last year has been rough on us both. We had been fighting a whole lot more, but the other night I wrote down this thought, “The pain we have been going through is the pain that comes with birth.” We are birthing a new life here in Napa, and it’s not supposed to be easy. This thing we are doing is supposed to be hard. I think we knew that, but we’ve both been surprised at just how hard things can be, while also feeling so damned easy. Moving feels a lot like building a house on quicksand, and that quicksand under our feet feels like I’m mixing too many metaphors. Since we sat down and REALLY talked about all of our fights and what’s fueling them, things have gotten so much better. The ground has started to feel so much more solid again. We feel connected once again. Before that talk, I had been looking for signs that we’re on the right path here in this place. I found that sign this last week when you frantically called me out onto the patio to see something fantastic! I was annoyed when I wandered away from whatever project I had been “working” on, but was so happy and surprised by what you had to show me. I can’t stop thinking about it. There it was, the plant that we had dropped on the hotel parking lot ground in Reno, Nevada. The planter shattered and we assumed the Spider plant was dead forever. Still, you listened to me when I wanted to replant the plant and see what would happen. I wanted to mix the dirt from our old life with our new life. I had faith in that plant. I had faith in us. And then the damned thing died anyway. It was dead, dead, dead. And then we were fighting, fighting, fighting. Nothing was going right in this new life and we were both so incredibly frustrated. I’ve been thinking a lot about garden metaphors, and when you called me out to the patio, I saw that the plant your mother had given us for our first home together, the one that we killed in Reno, had somehow magically sprung to life once again. I had been looking for a sign that we were on the right path, and once again the universe answered with a metaphor. We chose to come to this place with the clippings of our old lives. We replanted them here and panicked when it didn’t feel like they were growing. We forgot that growing things and life takes time. We forgot that pain comes with rebirth. We forgot how to tend our metaphorical garden. We just need to learn some more damned patience. We have to learn how to plant these seeds, and help them grow. And sometimes, we have to just plant the plant and then ignore it, only to be surprised months later that it’s not only alive, but looks to be thriving. It’s not as easy as some people make it look, and for us it’s mostly been easy. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to make your own garden grow, and that doesn’t even include all the work to grow that garden, together. Things are not going to just happen overnight for us. We have to till the garden and work to make things go. I’ve been watching more youtube videos late at night about gardening. I’ve been looking for more very real lessons and metaphors on how to continue to grow this life with you here in California. I love you so much and there is no place else I would rather be than on the couch, sipping wine, dancing in the kitchen and watching RuPaul. I can’t wait for us to figure out what we are planting here in Napa, and I can’t wait for us to help it grow.. Together.

Full moon madness

Who else is feeling this FULL MOON juju?


Claire says I’m feeling it extra hard because it’s a full moon in Leo and I’m one of the most Leo ever, but that’s magic and malarkey… isn’t it?
I’m sitting here tonight in my living room in Napa with the Full moon floating right outside our patio door. It’s moonlight is the only thing lighting this living room, other than the glow of this laptop. I’m sitting here soaking in the night and I’m sitting here doing what I always do in these late evenings, thinking about life, the universe and everything.

Claire and I sat back tonight and under the moonlight, we talked about our future.

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“Here’s Your Future” or “We’re gonna move to Northern California.”

YOU GUYS!!!! Claire and I are going to do the dang old, dang thing! Ha! No we’re not getting married or having kids….We are moving out of Colorado at the end of January! I have been here for 20 years, and while I feel like Colorado is my home and I will one day die here; Claire has lived in Colorado all her life and wants a taste of something different! So we are going to go off and have an adventure. We have no clue where we will land, or awaits us, and it doesn’t matter as long as we have each other and our Dick… the tabby cat. Claire has a passion for fine wine and has always wanted to live near the water. After talking her out of moving to Florida, we are currently looking towards Northern California. But we’re also looking at Burlington, Vermont after she had a dream about it a few weeks ago. So it feels like anywhere is on the table right now. I don’t really care where we go. I’ll go anywhere with her, as long as it is not Florida. I have no doubt that one day we will be back in Colorado one day, but for now, we’re going to go see where the roads take us. Life is too short. I’m already 40 and maybe we’ll get 40 years together… So why not get out there and see what is happening in the world? Plus, for the last two years I have sat here on the couch and “worked on myself,” and worked on my growth, while she has been sitting here feeling stagnant. It’s time for me to be the supportive partner and it’s Claire’s time to grow now! You know, but with a nice ocean breeze in her hair. We might land on our asses. It might be a disaster, but as long as we are doing it together… We’re going to have one hell of an adventure to tell you all about. I could end it there, but before I go I want to thank the Graf brothers for taking a chance on me at Music City Hot Chicken – Denver. I was ready to do something stupid. I was ready to stay here, while Claire went off to California without me. We would try the long distance thing and see where our roads lead us. But the brothers and owners of Music City, Sam and Jordan heard of my predicament and my own special version of “Should I stay or should I go now,” rambling through my head. I had been telling them that I wanted to stay here and build something with them here in Denver. I just wanted to be a part of something special. We sat down and they each told me it would be okay for me to leave and things would work out just fine. A few weeks ago, I was cleaning the fryers for the umpteenth time, “Here’s Your Future” by The Thermals, played unprompted in my head. That week, Claire had been in California exploring and looking for her future home. There was no one home waiting for me and I was probably going to fall asleep on the couch again that night, after drinking too many beers. I was sad and lonely and in mourning for the life I thought I was going to have to lose. “Here’s Your Future.” And I know it’s obvious to many of you, but remember I’m not that fast and on more than one occasion someone has asked me if I was on the spectrum…. I’m scraping the flour out of the bottom of the fryers, and then it dawns on me… It took me long enough to get there, but I figured it out. I was already building something special. I was building a life with this wonderful woman. I would be a fool to let her go on alone without me. I want to go on this journey with her. I decided to commit to her and us. Had the brothers not sat me down and told me everything would be alright if I left, I probably would have stayed and kept pushing through. I would have made a bonehead decision to stay here and potentially miss out on a great adventure with these women I love, oh so much. Also, if I’m being completely honest, I always felt in over my head in my job at MCHC. I wasn’t cutting it, and didn’t know how to communicate what I needed to make things work. Cleaning those fryers, I thought a lot about Eric Stoltz and his time on Back To The Future. Stoltz was originally cast in Back To The Future as Marty McFly, when Michael J Fox was not originally available. Fast forward seven weeks of filming and it just wasn’t working out. On paper Stoltz seemed like a great idea. It could have worked and it could have been great, but the chemistry just wasn’t there and during those seven weeks, Michael J Fox became available and the film would of course go on to become a classic. I’m excited for the young man who is taking my spot. He’s got way more knowledge, experience and the back of house skills needed to take the restaurant to where it needs to go. He’s younger, hungrier and incredibly positive. He’s what that place needs and I can’t wait to watch it become a runaway success… much like Michael J Fox and Back to The Future. So “Here’s You Future:” We’re going to go off and have some adventures. We are going to hunt for that simple, happy, healthy life. We’re going to do it together. We’re not leaving until the end of January. I’m going to be with MCHC till mid-January and we will be leaving heading somewhere the first week of February. We’re going to be looking for recommendations on where to go. She wants … Read more“Here’s Your Future” or “We’re gonna move to Northern California.”

Breckinridge Bourbon Interview Hour With Dammit Damian

Dammit Damian! I’m sorry guys, but I did it again.I’m going to do another series of Mostly Harmless interviews.I did the first one today, and I have a couple more scheduled for the next few days.I’m sorry for what is to come…I’m going to be constantly asking you guys to listen to interviews with people you’ve never heard of and couldn’t care less.I’m going to work hard to introduce a handful of you to movies, comedians, records, comics, ect… that I love, and that I see potential in.In these next few weeks, I’ll want to reach through this electronic screen and grab you in by the collar and yell, “CAN’T YOU SEE THE POTENTIAL TOO?!?!”  I’ve been writing about art since I was a very little boy.I don’t think I can ever stop.I keep going and I keep doing it and I keep doing it and I keep quitting, but it keeps coming back. It’s that itch I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stop. Or wait, is that just the eczema on my hands?Because I can not stop, here on this holiest of holidays, the day of birth of Mr. Kurt Vonnegut Jr….I pledge to you that I will only try to bring you the best of the best. I’m going to bring you the things I believe in. The people I believe in and the stories I want to tell.I don’t care about how many subscribers I have on YouTube. I just want the right subscribers. I’m not going to beg you to contribute to my Patreon, because I love this shit so much I do it for free.I just can’t stop thinking up questions. I just can’t stop wanting to share my love of art with the world, while also learning how to make my own art.I just want to create, it doesn’t matter how I do it. I just have to fucking annoy artists with my microphone, and then annoy all you to listen. But in the end, I love it. I love it all. It scratches so many itches I didn’t know it needed scratched.I just have to remember what’s important….Having fun. Being Weird. Being Damian.Shit, what was this post originally about?Oh yeah. Thank you. Thank you to all who have supported my ridiculousness.Thank You to those who saw this shy, awkward quiet kid and saw his potential. Thank you to those who let me know they saw any kind of potential.I’ve been very blessed with a number of friends who have supported this damned addiction of mine for all these years and helped me turn it into a real strange artform that I can never really stop experimenting within.I’m just going to create. It doesn’t matter how I do it.PS. Breckenridge Bourbon, you make a superior product. If you ever want to sponsor a lowly podcast about creativity in your 40’s and the adventure that is life… Give me a buzz.

Wide Right is the most punk rock bar in all of Denver in the year of 2021.

The lady is out of town tonight, so I had a hall pass to do whatever I wanted… So I went to the Paramount Theatre and watched one of my favorite writers/npr personalities speak! Super exciting! But before and after the show, I stopped at the best gosh darn bar in downtown Denver, WIDE RIGHT. It’s a magical place of cheap drinks, great bar food that doesn’t feel hoity toity, and just a great vibe. When I’m there it reminds me of the clubhouse feel that the Triple Nickel Tavern in Colorado Springs had when I worked there…. and that was just the daytime.I came back after standing in line for two hours to meet David Sedaris. (more on that tomorrow, probably?) I was debating going home, but instead I flipped the Toys for Tots coin that was sent to me in the mail to entice me to donate money.It has a teddy bear on one side and the United State Marine Corps logo on the other. It seems as good a coin as any to flip and help you decide fate. Obviously the Teddy bear is the HEADS and with HEADS I would go home, and tails, I go into the clubhouse for adventures and open mic night. I had never been so damned happy to see a Marine in my life as I opened my palm to the USMC logo staring back at me. I went in and found chaos. It was open mic night, just after a huge show at Ratio just down the street. It was open mic night alright, but tonight in the full moon it felt oh so much more like a party. It felt anarchic. It felt alive. Wide Right might be the most punk rock bar in all of Denver right now. They didn’t need to have bands playing here or people dressed a certain way! Wide Right is a divey, welcoming, performance arts space. It’s full of crazy drugged out artists just looking to make strange, weird art. I sat in the back and watched open micer after open micer eat shit. I watched a kid meltdown on stage, and I watched a bunch of really crazy, excited and scared people try to make art in a room full of people who don’t much give a shit. It was wonderful. It was electric. It was home. You could feel this creative desperation in the air and it was almost as intoxicating as the house made cocktails ($3 everyday during happy hour)!Maybe it’s the David Sedaris stories running around in my head, but I came home and felt compelled to write about this magic that I witnessed tonight in “downtown Denver.” It may not look the same, or feel the same… but there are places in this city where magic still happens. There are places here where people can still go chase those dreams, and not be judged. There are places still here in Denver, where you can go and feel like you’re still in your small hometown. Wide Right is a magical place. It’s a place I want to go to and visit when I have the almighty Hall Pass from the GF. It’s the place I want to try eating shit at stand up again (the few times I tried stand up in the past I was just thrown on shows by a guy with initials for a name who just used me for connections, but that’s a whole other story as well…), and it makes me want to surround myself with people who just want to fucking MAKE STUFF. I promise, I only had like 3 of those “Spicy” shots. They were good. Meghan makes some mean fucking drink recipes. ($3 during happy hour. 4-6pm every day. That spicy Mango marg was soooo fucking gooooood.) Congratulations to Meghan and Jeremy. You’re magical people and You’ve made a magical place. Thank you for sharing that magic with us all.xoxo

To Claire, on the last day of her soul sucking job:

My Darling Claire!Today you will set out on a new path. I’m so proud of you for making this leap and investment in yourself. It’s going to be scary jumping into the deep end of this ocean, but you have a life jacket and inflatable raft with me and the kitty, not to mention you’re scuba certified and a damned good swimmer.  I guess what I’m trying to say is, I can’t wait for you to figure out just how good a swimmer you already are and that I know you to be. It’s scary quitting a job, and losing that security, but I’m excited for the freedom you are about to find. I can’t wait to support you the way you supported me while I was figuring out my own path. But this is an adventure, and we’re in it together, especially because I’m not a particularly good swimmer. 😉 You need something that will help focus your vibrant energy, brilliance & passion. I see so much potential in you and I can’t wait for the rest of the world to catch on. Life is all about change and growth and I can’t wait to watch the growth that happens next for you.  Fuck, this is starting to sound like some kind of cult shit, doesn’t it?  All jokes aside, No more boring, soul sucking desk jobs for, my love! You’re going to find that perfect career for your talents, and I really do hope you find in in the wine industry. I can’t wait to see what you do next and I hope you love it as much as you love me and the kitty.In the days and weeks ahead, when you question your sanity in these decisions, remember that the kitty and I believe in you. Your family and friends believe in you. We all believe in you, and you’re going to do great things when you find that next path and career. When things get tough, and they will for a short time, please remember my favorite quote from a Harry Potter novel: “And now, Harry, let us step out into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure.” — Albus Dumbledore This is an adventure. We’re lucky that we get to take it together. I can’t wait to see where these next adventures take us. I love you,-Damian PS. Sorry I dropped your very expensive bottle of essential oils into the toilet and clogged the damned thing and tried to hide it from you. Thanks for loving me and all my 90’s sitcom dad-isms. I’m sure all the wine in our future will help with that. 😉

Notes on Depression: The Great Fondness of Now

The Great Fondness of NowBy Damian Burford I’ve had half a pot of coffee and I keep writing way to much nonsense on this here idiot box and then not posting it. I apologize for the humble/brag post, but this is meant to be an inspirational post after this last weekend’s “World Suicide Awareness Day” & Trve Brewing’s event for Brandon Gay, who took his life last year. I was talking to my friend Kelley the other night and she asked me how I was doing, and I told her about the new restaurant and how I wish it was a little busier, but then she looked me dead in my eyes and asked me, “No, HOW ARE YOU DOING?” She made sure to enunciate every single word, so I would know she was serious. She wanted to know how I was doing. Not some bullshit catch up answer. She wanted the honest to goodness truth. I sat there and thought for a moment before answering with a thought that pops into my head late at night when I’m sitting on the balcony, watching the world turn by me. I sit out there and I think to myself: “When I look back on these days I will look back on them with great fondness.” Sounds cold and heartless, but these are my halcyon days. These days are great and amazing and I’m trying my hardest to take the advice that was given to Kurt Vonnegut: “I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, ‘If this isn’t nice, I don’t know what is.” I feel the happiest, healthiest and best I have ever felt in my entire god damned life of misery. I didn’t know how much of a sad sack piece of shit I had been for years, wallowing in my self-made misery. I look back at these Facebook on this Day posts, and I want to tell that angry, shy, scared little boy that things will be alright. You’re only acting out because you don’t actually understand that you are the architect for your own misery. I spent so much time wanting and needing to be a part of something to be excepted that I didn’t realize I had to work to except myself first. In the immortal words of RuPaul Charles: “If you can’t love yourself, how in the hell you gonna love somebody else? “ I want to tell that stupid little brat of a man, “One day you’ll add those tools to the toolbox you need to not only get by in the world with more ease, but will allow you to share and help others find their ease.” Actually, I think I did this the other night while staring into the mirror after too much nighttime sleep aid. I want to tell that whiny fool, “One day you’ll start working on yourself and you’ll meet the most wonderful and supportive partner who wants to be with you because she sees how hard you work on growing and changing into the best person you can be.” I don’t think that younger boy would have listened. I just have to learn things the hard way, but you don’t have to. The point of this is, If my dumbass can get here, so can you. And If I can get here once, I can get here again. I can do it. You can do it. We can do it. I want to keep ranting and raving and telling you how I did it, but we’re all different beasts. What worked for me, might not work for you, but you have to be open to making yourself a better person. And each and every day I feel like I’m a better person than I was before and I’m just going to keep going in that direction. I get it why people are so annoying when they discovered the Gym, diets, religion, philosophy, crystals, astrology, ect… It’s because it’s a secret Pyramid Scheme. Let me explain, when we start to work on ourselves, when things start to really change for the better… you feel great. But you know what feels even better? What makes that dopamine hit even harder? Is getting other people to join up and feel great as well. You’ve opened their world and you get even more hits of dope. So you become the friend of your group selling lifestyles like it’s Mary Kay. So the point of this is that I I wanted to share a few things that have helped me feel this way. It might not work for you. We’re all super different and have different needs/programming/experiences. I’m not trying to sell you supplements here… *Honesty with yourself. (I’m Damian. I have limitations and I have different strengths and weaknesses. Stop comparing yourself to others. Be you.)*Prozac (I get the shakes and stutters sometimes and terrible leg cramps, but it beats feeling like I’m drowning in my own head.Meditation. (It helps quiet all the damned noise and helps me understand that thoughts are more like annoying little pop ups you get on your phone when you haven’t used an app for a while.)*Empathy. (Maybe if I understand people better, I won’t hate them as much.)*Philosophy (Changes the way you look at the world.)*Reading (Fiction, Non-Fiction, Memoirs: Changes the way you look at the world.)*Drag Race (helped me understand just how different we all are, and how we’re still so much the same.)*Too much Weed. (Helps me relaxxxxxxxxxxx, man. Helps me open my mind! Helps me sleep! Just helps me not take the world so god damned seriously!)*Writing (It helps me find my true voice and it just feels good.)*Service (Helping people who need help. Or writing self congratulatory Facebook posts and hope people gleam something from them.)*Being true to yourself and just how fucking weird you are and then embrace it, cause the only people worth knowing are the weirdos. This is … Read moreNotes on Depression: The Great Fondness of Now

Vintage Interview: Adam Carson, Drummer of AFI. On the streets of Dallas, Texas. Halloween 1999?

Originally printed on HAND CARVED MAGAZINE.(RIP) The Scene: October 30th 1999. Dallas, Texas. In front of Insomnia Coffee Bar.It seems our dear Friend Scandalist was deep in the Halloween spirt. After watching AFI we were left with little to do and even less cash. So what did we do? We stood out in front of Insomnia, while Good ole Scandalist decided to, Moon people, Show people his breasts, Yell in unsuspecting people’s faces and then chase them down the street and yell at them some more. After a little over an hour of watching the master moon taxi cabs and Hippie buses, We just happened to run into Adam from AFI. Here is the interview we conducted that shortly followed: Damian: I’m here with Hunter form AFI. Its that correct?Adam: Nope.Damian: Who are you?Adam: My name is Adam.Damian: Oh. [pause] Now I feel like a retard.Adam: HaHaHa. We’re off to a great start here.Damian: They told me you were Hunter. So I’m going to ask you some questions about you running Checkmate Records even though you don’t run Checkmate Records.Adam: You can ask me anything you want about Checkmate Records. I’ll answer it the best I can.Damian: So, uh, How long have you been in AFI?Adam: Since its conception. Probably eight years. Eight and a half.Damian: Have any regrets?Adam: None what so ever.Damian: None? Now, All Hallow’s EP came out recently. Tell us a little about that. What’s up with that?Adam: The All Hallows EP is a four song EP that came out in the beginning of October. It has three originals and a cover of Halloween, by the Misfits. Its obviously Halloween themed. There’s a thousand, limited edition, orange vinyl seven inches and a bunch of CDs. We like it. We think its among the best stuff that we’ve done.Damian: So have the Misfits heard the cover?Adam: I don’t know. But we’re going to be touring with Danzig in a couple of weeks. So he might start asking us for his mechanical royalties. Damian: Are you excited about that?Adam: Yea, I’m excited about it. We haven’t actually gotten permission to do the song. So I don’t know if he’s going to be fining us or not. The Danzig tour should be cool. We’re going to be playing in front of a lot of people who have not seen us before. They probably won’t hate us. But you know? Its rock ‘n roll.Damian: Well its officially Halloween now. You guys are playing Fitzgerald’s in Houston tomorrow night. Any special surprises for that show, that we’re going to miss because we’re in Dallas?Adam: I think so.Damian: Can you tell us about that because we’re not going to be there?Adam: Nah. You’ll have to read it on the Internet or something.Damian: Read it on the Internet? Come on…Adam: Nothing to crazy. There is a certain Halloween feel that we like our shows to have. Every show so we’re not doing a hole lot different. It will be fun.Damian: Now this isn’t your first tour with Sick Of It All. Have you been getting a better response this tour versus the last tour with them?Adam: I think so. When we did that first tour we were largely unknown in the cities we played. We’ve since toured extensively by ourselves. We have a small fan base in every city. Which is cool.Scandalist: Did I frighten you when i started screaming at you?Adam: No.Scandalist: Oh, well. I’m sure it was annoying.Adam: You actually didn’t scare me. I was expecting you too, I was hoping you wouldn’t….Damian: Alright, Now there were people here tonight just to see you, then they left as soon as you got off the stage. Does that make you feel good?Adam: In a way that makes me feel good that people are coming to see us. On the other hand, I find it ridiculous that people pay money to see Sick Of It All and don’t even stick around. They don’t realize that Sick of It All was the reason most of these bands on the bill are there, the reason we do what we do and love it so much is that Sick Of It All sets such a great example. These guys have been doing it for fifteen years and they love what they are doing. They are not going to stop any time soon. They have made it their life. They have made it their career. I think it is sooo Amazing and admirable that they day in and day out just grind away. Cause they are not a huge band. Its a lot of work for them. They do it because they love it. That’s completely inspirational. I’m amazed that people leave without experiencing that. Such as yourselves…Damian: Well We drove about 3 hours basically to see you guys play.Adam: That’s so flattering. Its really cool. I think you guys missed out on not watching Sick Of It All.Scandalist: So what inspires you?Adam: Pete’s coffee. Then the conversation went to someone talking about sex and then Adam excusing himself because he was, “Missing out.” End.

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